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I was clocked at Detected speeds of 113 & 111 Northbound and Southbound on July 22 ,a very windy and stormy night,at Dandenong Bypass Bridge.I was travelling at 100 kp,all the way and didnt get any other fines.Strong winds must affect these cameras.But how do we prove this

I too have been fined for speeding. I can state that I do not speed and I am always aware of the speed I am traveling.
I think this camera also at Keysborough, Dandenong Bypass, is faulty and a revenue raiser. How can I get this fine stopped?

I have been clocked four times at the same speed camera (Dandenong Bypass) within two months back in June, however, I have not written a letter yet. chriswaltonmail@gmail.com

I too have been fined under the Dandenong Bypass Bridge doing 108km/h. I strongly believe I was not speeding at the time as I knew the cameras were there. I have not used Eastlink since and unless they reimburse my money I never will again.

Yet another victim of the notorious faulty Wellington Road bridge. According to my fine I was doing 109klm - there was no way I was doing that speed. I'm a student, so don't have money to pay solicitors to take it to court and it cost me three demerit points!

Add me to the list..I also receiverd a infringement notice for doing 108km/h,on Dandenong Bypass Bridge on the 7/09/09 tottally freaking out, All i can say That this is very false..Reason being I am not one that speeds and cant afford to pay fines. My vehicle speedo is also out but in the oppisite way eg, if i am doing 100km/h..really i am doing 96-97.
I also am a very un wealthy person on a single family income and cant afford to pay fines and court costs

I too am another victim of the Wellington Road Bridge radar... had cruise control set to 100, was book at a detected speed of 110 - fined at 108. It is ridiculous! Fine was dated 19 September at 4.05pm. I was driving my parents home from a 90th birthday...
Just like Haydar, my speedo is also out - when it says I am doing 100, I am actually doing 95 (according to the speedo check near Geelong on Princes Hwy)... This would mean i was travelling at 115km/hour according to my speedo!! That is just ridiculous... If there is a class action, i would like to know about it as I too have limited funds for court actions!

Cannot beleive it, I heard aout this camera at wellington road bridge and as such made sure that i was following the speed limit. Just got a ticket says doing 108kmph.

I am another victim of the faulty camera at Dandenong Bypass Bridge. Alleged offence, 23/Aug 2009 at 108km but approx 106, fine $146. What absolute rubbish! This is so wrong. I too will join in on a class action.

Second time i have been fined here and i know i wasnt speeding,especially after using cruise control after the first time. But i had to pay both of them. Awesome, i feel like smashing the camera to pieces if only i could get to it. How do we get our money back.

Same as many of the above. As soon as I get on Eastlink I set crusie control to 103km, which I know is equivalent to 100km. I got booked for 109km/h (adjusted to 107km/h) at Dandenong Bypass. This means I would have had to have been doing aprox 112km/h by my speedo. I just don't drive that fast. This is a total ripoff - how do we lodge a protest or appeal?

I was pinged twice in as many weeks by the same camera. ( Wellington Rd ) detected speed in both cases was 108kph. Fined $146 and one point, both times.
This is highway robbery! I too, will join any class action

I got done on 1/08/09 at the dandenong bypass doing 108km/h alleged 106km/h. I was driving a government toyota hiace with the cruise set to 100km/h and am positive I was not speeding. I will contest this fine!!

Just received fine today for 26 Sep for 108km at Dandenong Bypass. Cruise Control was set to 100km and had a GPS that confirmed speed.
Is there a law firm out there prepared to take this on? Come On Scott Cooper! You have hundreds of people here that need your help!

Does anyone know how to go about commencing any class actions and what it may cost?

Just received fine 14 Oct for 24 Sep for 108km at Dandenong Bypass. Cruise Control was set to 100km and had a GPS that confirmed speed. To day i went to speedcamera office to have a look at photo and the toll me they had alot of complaints and if you take it to court it could cost you up to $6000 which its BULLSHIT.

advice i have received is that everyone should individually (not class action) dispute the ticket by electing to go to court. The court system does not have the resources to handle every case individually and would therefore be forced to withdraw all fines. Apparently the Australian Design Rules for SPeed Cameras require a 10% allowance for error which means if you were booked at less than 110km on Eastlink - you probably have a case. I'm not a lawyer but it all fairly reasonable to me - only works if a large number elect to go to court though... (Check with CIvic COmpliance but I'm told Court only costs $65, not $6000, unless you are paying the other $5935 to a lawyer??)

I just received a fine for travelling at 108kmh on the Eastlink Dandenong Bypass Bridge heading southbound (speed detected 110 kmh), and ANOTHER fine (on my return journey) for allegedly travelling at exactly same speed at the exactly the same place but heading northbound.

I haven't any traffic infringement notices of any kind for at least 10 years. So I was very surprised to get a speeding fine.

But when I got two fines alleging the same speed at the same place, I thought there must be an error.

The number of posts here indicates I am not alone. I'll use this webpage as part of my evidence if I need to go to court as I'm confident of successfully contesting this fine.

Daniel,
former regular Eastlink customer.

I TOO HAVE RECEIVED A SPEED FINE I BELIEVE TO BE INCORRECT ON 8 SEPT AT THE DANDENONG BYPASS BRIDGE. I USE EASTLINK REGULARLY AND ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS SET CRUISE CONTROL TO 100 ON THE DOT! I INTEND TO PRINT OFF NUMEROUS UPON NUMEROUS POSTINGS FROM WEBSITES AND SEND IT IN WHEN I PROTEST MY FINE. ADD ME TO ANY LIST OF PEOPLE WISHING TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST EASTLINK!

same as above - alleged speed of 106, detected speed of 108. So what happens next - there is talk of class action, how do we initiaite this?

I have just recieved two fines a week apart from each other. Both in the eastlink tunnels. The speed limit is 80 and my fines are for 88 and 87 km/h. Isn't that with in the 10% tolorence for car manufacturers. Mind you my car is 30 years old. I think I'll dispute it and see what happens. I've never been to court before so its a bit scary. Who would I call to find out what costs would be?

i got two fines on southbound two days apart on dandenong bypass for same 108km when i know i was doing 100km as was in my sons car.and these fines are at same time its not fair i haven't had fine in many yrs never speed, can anyone help what should i do I'm pensioner so cant afford lour

I got three fines in 24 hours, was with a colleague who wartned me about speeding on eastlink so was very careful. I'm assuming I should argue the case. First speeding fine (x3) for me in around 5 years, I think I've only ever had a couple in my whole driving career

I have had 4 fines from the camera at the weelington rd bridge. The first 2 I paid stupidly trustng the system even though I couldn't work out how I was speeding on cruise control. I am going to contest these 2 latest fines and any others I receive as I know I was doing less than 95.

Mixed feelings here people. I am glad to hear I am not alone.

Driving South Bound along Eastlink with cruise control at 80kmh. Received speeding ticket today allegedly doing 93kmh. how can this be???

What do we do?

Add me to the list...I know about the cameras so i always maintain a speed just under 100kph. Guess what....Wellington Rd bridge, northbound...108 detected and 106 alleged. Sounds so familiar, doesn't it. Is there anyone mounting a class action on this? If so i want in on it. No way was I speeding, there is a problem with this camera as we all know.

Yes I will be fighting this new fine which I should not have to pay. Same same Wellinton road Bridge detected speed 108km alleged speed 106 km. Something is very wrong as too many people are loosing points for no reason and there may even be job losses, family breakdowns ...do I need to go on. ALL FINES SHOULD BE ERASED AND POINTS AND FUNDS RETURNED. DISGUSTING HOW NO-ONE SEEMS TO BE RESPOSIBLE AND DRIVERS AND RIDERS SHOULD HAVE TO JUST WEAR THIS.I KNOW I WILL NOT!

I too have received 2 fines in 3 days from the dandenong bypass bridge.. I know I was travelling at 100kph with cruise control set... so there is definitely something wrong with that camera

Might as well add my fine to the list....Eastlink, Rowville, Northbound, Wellington rd bridge.......108km/h detected, 106km/h alleged......$146 fine. I to use cruise control at 100. ?. Apparently there was something on ACA or Today Tonight recently about these issues. Anyone see it?

Just found Neil Mitchell on 3AW has been covering this in depth. See 3AW website.

I too have received two fines and yes on cruise control on 100km but fined for detected speed of 108km and alelged speed of 106. I received this two days in consecutive. What the.... But like good hard working people paid the fines. This is all revenue making for the Government. As if it is not already expensive to get onto this stupid Eastlink. Give us a break. These camera's are definately faulty. I am sure the people behind all of this never ever pay a fine......They really need to take a good look at themselves and their speed cameras. Why is it that no other Freeway has so many fines to their names. Maybe this is all a conspircy and they want US the TAX PAYERS, who are ready paying for it pay for it twice. GIVE US A BREA

I incurred x 2 fines 3 days apart at exactly 108 KLM being the stated speed late last year / Wellington rd & Dandenong by pass.

Tried to argue the faulty camera's scenerio Traffic infringment office wouldn't have a bar of it, went on to a plan to pay them back, in Feb 09 paid some of it, still some outstanding I guess not motivated to pay in any hurry as I consider I was under the limit & the fines false- I also stopped using Eastlink but recently used it again last month for 2 days only -sure enough got another speeding fine 109 Klm Keysborough northbound definately not doing this speed, I was still so mindful of the fines currently paying off --I can't see how its viable to travel on Eastlink with Faulty camereas -The way its going I won't have a licence left nor will many other people who use it. If anyone knows of successful precedent argueing these fines please post something""""" Cheers

another 2 fines at Keysborough (3 in total 17oct,20 oct, 22 oct)...108, 112 and 118..... Ihad cruise control set at 99/100.... this is a joke.....

Just received a fine notice for 113km/111km alleged, this is ludicrous! Cruise control set to 100 and I get fined? How many more will be turning up in the mail after this first one? This is a joke, I'm not paying. Anyone who is thinking of a class action suit, I'm in.

yep i got one too 109 detected 107 alleged on 23 october and i was doing 100 on my 12 mth old motorbike...looks like a big problem goin on here

well i think iv out done u all here im from Echuca and have been workin down in melb for the last 2 months arrived home last week to find 11 fines in the mail i seriously thought this was a hoax all at the same speed 106 on the wellington st bridge they must have thought oohh here is dumb country person we will take him for all he has got well screw the bastards and there cheating camera,s they can come and get me and lock me up before i pay 1 sent

How can getting a speeding fine be regaurded as a safety issue when the levels are set so low that you have to watch the speedo more than the road ,watch the speedo more than the rear view mirrors . Caught for doing 106 kph as I came on to east link and tried to merge safely . Obviously this just plain revenue raising.

My husband just got 2 fines a week apart and again he never speeds and his crusie control set at 100km/h on the north bound wellington bridge one detected 108km/h and the other 107km/h so not happy because he was not speeding and we will not pay and again any law sute and you can count as in!!!!

Got two fines on a Sunday both by the northbound camera one at 117, the other at 106. Had the speed alert set to 110, since the car was bought and it's never gone off.

I'm a traffic engineer, so I checked the speedo on the car using the speed detectors at work. Speedo is fine. Sent a letter explaining this, got knocked back. Guess i'm off to court. What a waste of everybody's time and money.

I have had so many fines I am sick of them I got to the stage east link saves me heaps of time but I now get off at the bridges and go over them and re-enter east link again.I have lost my license like alot of others I have allot still pending court some of the fines I have they sent them to me six months after the event so you can not tell me this is not for them to make money.This all is bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

9 fines in 9 days, I have cruise control, and an over-speed alarm, how I managed to do 112 and not notice is amazing!! So I guess it's the bus for a while, we all know it's the money they want, so no way will I win in court. No more eastlink for me.

3 fines, same spot all between 108-110km/h. I have known where the cameras are since they built the eastlink and always LOWER my speed on cruise control as i go through the camera sites... Yet the tickets still come. Everyone should contest these as the courts will not be able to ignore the fact that everyone is wrong at this spot and that the camera is out.

I have now received two fines in october 2009 one on 10 oct and the other on 24 oct southbound on eastlink,keysborough,Dandenong bypass bridge both times i had my cruise control set to 90kms one of the fines said i was doing 112 kms the other one 109 kms strange as i have been driving on eastlnk for the last 5 months and have not received any fines previously

am not going not going to pay will take it to court
kalvin80@gmail.com

Add me to the list. I had my cruise control on at 98km. I have relatively new car and have tested the speedo always shows 2km less than the speedo reading. Northbound on the Dandenong Bypass Bridge guess what my speed was detected 108km. No way is this correct. I will be fighting this

October 4, I was clocked at 109 down to 107, I ALWAYS slow down to between 90 - 95 at the bridge because there has been so much hype about it, apart from the fact that I do not speed, why would I speed through there knowing there is a problem. I have had a couple of speeding fines about 15-18 years ago, I was guilty then, I didn't sook about it, I paid the fine and learnt my lesson. This time, no crime, I will be fighting this fine.

I've been contacting lawyers around Melbourne to try and initiate a Class Action against Eastlink, still in the process of chasing this up but if you're interested in getting behind this contact me at hodgson1@bigpond.net.au and maybe we can stop this maddness. The amount of money we've all paid out to Eastlink for what I am positive are faulty cameras is ridiculous.

My husband and I recieved 3 fines within 10 days of each other. All for the same speed detected at 109km alledged speed 107km. I wrote to civic compliance complaining that these were incorrect as my car had cruise control etc and we yesterday recieved 3 generic letters basically saying bad luck, pay them. How on earth to we have any hope of contesting these stupid fines that we cannot even afford to pay.. Then to make matters worse today we receive 7 fines for driving on eastlink when we are not suppose to even though we have a city link account. Even though Eastlink issued these fines to Vic Police after calling them they said it is not their problem it is Citylinks and Vic Police. That means we now have $1191 in fines to pay and no money to pay them.

Is'nt this wonderful, that we are at least expressing our frustrations about these speeding fines.We all know very well , that these cameras are just money gathering devices for the coffers of the state governments.What beats me , is that we pay up.
Going to court is straight forward .What we have to do in the short to medium time frame is to compile a register with names and adresses of all of us with grievances and present it to the court as evidence that maybe something is not right here,that maybe the cameras are faulty.Remember we are innocent until proven guilty.Therefore , if there is a speck of doubt about the speed cameras reliability , I fail to see how a learned judge can convict us.
For the long term, lets do a class action .What we need is an organisator and we found him at hodgson1@bigpond.com.au(though I detect there should not be a 'au' after com )
I am going to email him, I suggest we all do the same.
Offence: Detected speed 114km/h at Eastlink,Keysborough,Southbound, Dandenong Bypass bridge.-BULLSHIT -The car was on cruise control all the way!

I have a speeding fine northbound wellington road guess what 108km, I dispute this because I always travel on the speed limit.

I received a speeding fine last night in the mail, and surprise surprise the Wellington Road Bridge camera clocked me at 108, alleged speed 106. It sounds like a bad record having read all of the previous comments. I am going to print this page and send it back with a letter as I was NOT driving over 100kmh. If my letter is rejected I will gladly go to court.

I am sitting here going through about 8 fines all for either wekkington road or keysbourough bypass, some have even had court proceedings issued on them, with extra charges I too will be sending this page with a letter. I would be more than happy to go to court

There is NO WAY I was doing 108kmh through the Wellington road bridge!!!! This is the second fine. How can so many be clocked at 108kms?
what do we need to do??

I TOO, have received a speeding fine for travelling Dandenong bypass bridge. I am truly amazed as I paid particular attention to my speed because we had a fine for the same only weeks before, same place ,same detected speed. AMAZING!!! I TOO WILL PRINT OFF THIS PAGE AND SEND A LETTER

Was book a total of 9 times on eastlink between Oct 08 and Jan 09. Each time for 10km/h over speed limmit. I ride a motorcycle the same one for 8 years and have not been pinged by a fixed speed camera before. I check my speedo with 2 diffrent 12 channel GPS units and it is 99km/h @ 100km/h on GPS. Ripped off!

Booked doing 107km/h on 25 Oct 09.Been travelling Eastlink since it opened in July '08 I know the speed camera @ Wellington Road & never speed but still got caught.Just rang CCV after I sent a letter in & they have removed the fine.Write to CCV with plenty of time left before due date stating your case.

Had contract work for three weeks between September and October and recieved four fines all at about 107 km and all at the Wellington Road bridge. Prior to that I had not lost any points. Of a morning used Nepean Highway, no problem. Will not use Eastlink again.

I am so mindful of these cameras I purposes slow down going under any bridges or tolls so that Im so far under there is no way, Rarely use eastlink but out of necessity, and never go over my speed, Just got a fine under Dandenong bypass bridge 27 Nov.detected speed 108KLMs fined for 105 I was not traveling at this speed absolutely NOT, I will take this to court and say my peace, EXPENSIVE to travel on, low numbers using this EXPENSIVE PRIVATELY CONSTRUCTED TOLL WAY, REVENUE!!!!!! This is a very straight safe road so how could they be concerned about speed & our safety, AN ABOMINATION OF OUR RIGHTS!

I too recently received an infringement notice:
Place of the offence: Eastlink, Keysborough, Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge. Detected speed 108 alleged 105. I use Eastlink every weekday morning and evening and sometimes on weekends.
Earlier last week my wife also received an infringement notice for exactly the same location with similar speedometer values. I always use cruise control on Eastlink set at 100 on the dot. In disgust at receiving these fines I did my homework and found the below:
Official Warning
Fines issued by Victoria Police for traffic offences
Victoria Police has the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice issued for a traffic offence and issue an official warning in its place.
Generally, an official warning will not be given for red-light, mobile phone, seatbelt or other serious road safety offences, unless the existence of an emergency situation can be proved.
However, you can still apply to Victoria Police for an internal review of its decision. The contact details will be on the infringement notice.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.
If you have been issued with a speeding fine for driving less than 10kph over the speed limit, you can apply for an official warning if you:

• Hold a current driver licence (includes probationary licence holders but does not include a learner driver permit holder)
• have not been issued with a speeding, other traffic fine or official warning within the previous two years (if you have an interstate licence, you will need to provide evidence of your driving record - contact your local road traffic authority for this information)
• do not deny that you committed the offence.
Fines issued by agencies
All agencies have the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice and issue an official warning in its place.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.

If this helps one other person, I have not wasted my time by posting it.

I know that I will be writing to Victoria Police.

get 2 tickets both on 108 downgraded to 106 probably 2 weeks apart. I always use cruise control and my speedo is always 5km less than the actual speed. This is confirmed by my GPS and one of those overhead speed detecting camera on the hume hwy. Can we do something? The first ticket was a bt of shock but I think I might be really speed up. Then the second one comes through with same speed. Started to think if the camera is OK or not. Now it seems I'm not the only one. As suggested by Roger, I will write to them for a official warning instead. However I've paid already so the chance is really low, I believe

Been done twice in as many months for doing 86 in the 80 zone leading into the Mullum Mullum tunnel. I do the same trip every day, use cruise control and know I wasn't speeding. There is something very dodgy about the set-up around that tunnel

I received my fine dated the 28th November for alleged 106kms detected speed 109kms Eastlink Northbound Wellington Road Bridge and was sure that I was doing under 100kms. I couldn't believe it till I read this page.

Just received first ever traffic fine in 32 years of driving. Dated 7 Nov Wellington Road camera, northbound, Alleged speed 108k Detected speed 110k and I know for sure I wasn't speeding. Reading these comments it's incredible that our stories are so similar, the speeds similar. How can Eastlink/Vic Polic defend this? It is an outrage. Maybe we should all hand in our e-tags in a protest march to their headquarters. Losing a few thousand customers so publicly might just shake them out of their complacency.

THESE SPEED CAMERAS ARE SHIT!!!!!!, SHAME ON YOU THE VICTORIAN GOVERNMENT , SHAME,IF I COULD I WOULD SMASH THESE CAMERAS TO BITS AND THROW THEN IN THE TIP!!!!, WHAT AN ABSOLUTE F****** DISCRACE!!!!!

I too stupidly paid a fine which I received on 4th October 2009. I know I wasnt doing over 100, It got me at 107kms. I didnt question it. Now I find out all these disputes! Lost a point which is frustrating.

i have received 7 fines in total now...6 at wellington rd bridge and 1 at dandenong bypass. i don't usually travel the wholelength but the one time i do i have been fined. This is absolute crap...if there is any kind of class action I too would like to add my fines in!!! I have only ever had 1 speeding fine in my life and i took it for someone else!!!

I have been driving for over 20 years, moved from Sydney to Melbourne and got 3 speeding fines in 1 month, all at the same time of day at exactly the same place, Wellington Road Bridge. I KNOW THAT I WAS NOT SPEEDING. I do the same speed each time I travel that road and I always go under 100. I am a single mum struggling to make ends meet. I have paid the fines but I am fighting it. WHY CAN WE NOT DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE THIS?

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM. State Coffers Are Mounting.
Same here, I never speed, and I couldn't work out how I could possibly have a speeding ticket at Wellington Rd, I've only ever had one ticket for speeding in my whole life and that was for doing 104 in a 100 zone, which makes me wonder if that was wrongly detected as well. It's a total scam

If this government gets re-elected, it will be a miracle, they are scum. They should never have taken my fine payment from me without telling me that there was probably a problem with the speed camera.

Got a nice Xmas/New Years present in the mail Tuesday 29th December, like everyone else 108klm detected, charged 106klm for early december. I know the camera's are there, got done for exactly same about 8mths ago. And guess what? TODAY I receive another EXACTLY same!!!! Same place!!! AND i've been intentionally slowing down to 80klm under the bridge!!!
Off will go a letter to member of parliament!!

east link INFRINGEMENT notices are a rip off - WHY cannot cameras and speed devices be FIXED and indicate ONLY actual speed particularly around WELLINGTON ROAD EXIT - this is an expensive RIP OFF against local motorists - I never exceed 100 kph BUT TRAFFIC NOTICES come with monotonous frequency

Just recieved a fine also for the dandenong bypass camera.
According to etag records my entry point onto eastlink combined with distance travelled and time of fine makes me cruising down the road in excess of 130kmph WITHOUT getting picked up by the wellington bridge camera!?

I have just received 3 infringement notices all from the Wellington Rd camera - my parter was driving at the time and just a few weeks ago received a letter from Vicroads congratulating him for his wonderful driving record over the past 3 years. I am absolutely certain he was not speeding. we don't have the time to dedicate to a day in court however i found some very interesting information on the Victoria Police website regarding multiple fines from the same camera location, if you have copped multiple fines within a short period of time, you may apply to have the subsequent fines withdrawn, so in our case, we recieved one fine for the 9th of Dec and then TWO more on the 18th - as we hadn't received the first infrigement notice when the second and third were issued, we can apply to have the second and third fines withdrawn. it's worth a try especially for those who are time poor and can't get to court.

Apologies, I meant to post the link:

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=10369

I got my second fine southbound at the Dandenong bypass saying my alleged speed was 107km/h but I know where that camera is and I'm always extra careful driving under that bridge especially after thew 1st fine it doesn't seem right that i got another speeding fine there when im so careful.

108km/h Keysborough, Northbound, Dandenong Bypass. On cruise in new Ford Ute (Acurate Speedo showing 100km/h), TOM TOM showing 100km/h. Pass at least 6 other cameras a day on cruise at 100km/h with no fines for over 3 years (do a lot of driving).

Simple answer. It's not a question of if but when with this camera. IT IS OBVIOUSLY FAULTY.

I to like Emma's partner above was recently sent a letter to congratulate me on my great driving record over the past 3 years, what a joke.

The Police website is also a joke as I had a look at their statistics for Eastlink Cameras but it does not tell you at exaclty what speed drivers where detected at, just a general range (108 seems to be very common). So I thought I would e-mail them to ask but guess what, you can't. There is no "if you don't agree" link.

By the way, I also have a Navman that shows the same speed as the TOM TOM.

CAMERAS ARE FAULTY, CHANGE THEM!

I have recently received 3 infringement notices for alledgedly exceeding the speed limit under the Wellington Road bridge.
Is anyone aware of a class action being considered or prepared?

I have been fined by the camera @ Wellington Rd bridge sth bound on Dec 19th alleged speed 105klms (detected speed 108klms) when I had my cruise control set at 100 and was also using my GPS to monitor my speed I am going to fight it will anyone email me their details so I can use it in my defence. mirjam.geisler@bigpond.com.au. Thanks.

100kmph on cruise, dandenong bypass bridge (alleged speed 108kmph), I know this because this is how i drive, late model car, this camera is not accurate, will be going to court.

funny thing 16/12/09 and 22/12/09 detected 105
alleged 108 yes i was driving, a different vehicle
on these days and the time of day, for the first one 3:11pm and the second 3:26pm yes i will be seeking a offical warning

my old man (who was using cruise control @ 98kph) copped a fine from the EastLink, Keysborough, Southbound Dandenong Bypass Bridge, Keysborough Camera. While i was driving right beside him, and im yet to receive a fine.

Can anyone say FRAUDULANT and FAULTY? im guessing the state govenment has a stutter and thats maybe why they cant admit to this fascicle fund raising

Also, for anyone thats interested in getting the media involved. check out : http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/suggest-story

Clocked 110km/h Alleged 107km/h at the East link, Keysborough, Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge on the 19/12/09... i mean come on everyone knows where the cameras are so we are not going to speed... so I would like to say I was not speeding that day and Eastlink pull you finger out and fix your dam cameras

just got a fine guess what 108km wellington bridge cruise control on, have only just started to use eastlink for about a month, now i will never use eastlink again they can stick it up there @@s vicroads, government, and the police

2 fines 5 mins apart wellington rd bridge alleged 111km and dandenong bypass alleged 107km

Im a bit worried that I was caught by camera. The 100km limit and I was doing about 105 on my speedo on freeway. Will I be ok?

I have recieved 10 speed fines over the period of two weeks in late December and early January 2010. Please email me to tanyamelbourne@yahoo.com.au so we can stick together. I happy to join a class action group to fight agains speed cameras in Victoria!!!!!!!! Plaese need your support, guys!!!! Happy to support others!!!!

It's still happening 4th January. I was using cruise control.

I have so far received 6 speeding fines over the same 2 weeks as Tatiana. Five from the Wellington Road Bridge and one from the Dandenong Bypass. Not sure what to do now.

I received 3 fines.. All stating alleged speed 108, detected speed 106..

I've browsed the net and am yet to find anything to say a class-action suit has been initiated.
I have disputed mine and received a letter stating that Vicpol have withdrawn the fines and I am now to receive a summons for court..

this is f*cking ridiculous. (excuse the french) but I am sick to death of Voctoria's revenus raising.. No other state has such obsurd road laws: i.e. NSW has a 10% speed tolerance, VIC has a 2% speed tolerance... Hmmm as others have said, doing 6kms over doesn't make you a dangerous driver, so why are we being punished? Revenue, that's why!

Arrrgh this gets me so frustrated!

Anyway, does anyone have any ideas on how we could initiate a class-action suit against eastlink? I'm ready to roll with these idiots!

same story,
cruise control set at 98 kph from tunnel to frankston, twice now at wellington road and once at keysborough (different days) always 109 kph. sick to death of it. am going to court

Just got one for 109 and alleged 106 kmh on xmas day !!!! Had cruise control set on 100 kmh on 2008 Ford Mondeo ?? Vote out Brumby and co. and see you in court !!

Posted the following letter regarding my ABSURD fine:

feel free to copy...


OBLIGATION NUMBER: 0942 657 858
TRAFFIC INFRINGEMENT NOTICE NUMBER: 0200168918


To whom it may concern


I am writing to you regarding an infringement notice issued to me just recently.

This alleged offence was for apparently speeding through a section of the eastlink under the dandenong bypass bridge.

I would like to query whether the camera is operating correctly and in accordance within the law.

My reasons for this query are as follows:

My Eastlink statements pinpoint my vehicles exact entry time on the toll road.

In order to reach the Dandenong bypass at the alleged time of the alleged offence I would have had to be traveling at speeds in excess of 160kmph

On top of that I would / should have been photographed by the Wellington bypass traffic camera before I got to the Dandenong bypass.

My job requires me to drive all over Melbourne and knowing that speed and red light cameras are always operational I drive with the uptmost caution and within the limit as my job relies entirely on having my licence.

I set my cruise control on 95kmph and never travel above 97kmph on Eastlink let alone 110kmph as ‘alleged’ on the infringement notice.

Also in light of this, a recent news item on a commercial television station aired a story regarding a faulty camera which issued hundreds of fines to people for travelling at 108kmph regardless of their actual speed.


It would be greatly appreciated if you could review the fine and camera in this instance.



Funnily enough Leading Senior Cuntstable "Fiona McLeay"
rejected my internal review request by squawking babble at me about the type of camera they use.

She made no note that it could ever be faulty..... nor did she mention the ludacris speeds in which I had to travel in order to get the fine.

See you in court!!!!! and I am taking my 4 car East link business account away !!!

HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS!!!!! THE BACK POCKET!!!!

THATS WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO US!!

I have been fined and my both my Inlaws have been fined . We always set our speeds along Eastlink especially . At the time of the fine my wife was expecting our first child i was being extra careful, to say the least. I wrote a letter of objection and S BAKER who is a Leading Senior Constable sent back a response about the type of camera used, big technical and complicated words were used in this letter, i was very impressed. My aim is to form a Class Act. My email is kenter@optusnet.com.au. I have contacted N. Mitchel at 3Aw and waiting for a response also . Do not pay the fine and lets all go to court. This one will not go away . I told Civic Compliance in my letter i would do this and i mean it, but i need your help.


Nick Karamoshos
Keysborough

I am to assume your response was along the lines of

"Speed detections on the eastlink are captured using the Gastometer Digital Radar System - Parabolic (DRCS-P) system which measures speed using a parabolic radar. A parabolic reflector focuses a narrow radar beam slanted at the road at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal and is aimed at the centre of each lane. The system is a single unit per lane and consists of a camera, flash and speed measurement device. It records the speeds of all vehicles and captures images of vehicles travelling at the speeds in excess of the designated posted speed limit. The detected speed is then compared against an independent secondary speed measuring device at the site and the two readings are compared for accuracy to within +/- 2km/h"

what a croc....

Absolutely outrageous, I have been a rep on the road for 3 years and have done thousands of kilometers all over Victoria and never had a speeding fine in 25 years, NONONON!!!! forget that excellent speed record I got pinged 5 times in a month at welling road bridge, also knowing it was a problem camera....thats 5 demerit points. I am a single mother......any class action let me know.....I am in...

Jan wrote on Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:06 pm:

I've been contacting lawyers around Melbourne to try and initiate a Class Action against Eastlink, still in the process of chasing this up but if you're interested in getting behind this contact me at hodgson1@bigpond.net.au.

Any luck Jan? My wife has has just been pinged twice. In the same week. I know she doesn't speed because she's always on my case for going over 100. But she uses Eastlink daily to get to the city.

I've learnt to drive under 100 coming off the M1 and setting my cruise control on the moment I enter Eastlink but there have been times I forgot and didn't get pinged after the 1st 2 times I did I pinged.

If there are people who are serious about challenging it I say $10 each and let's see how far we go and how deep we dig.

I suspect if we dig deep enough and shake the tree hard enough something will fall out.

$10. Who's in?

Please see below for template letter to Civic Compliance Victoria

Dear Sir

I refer to traffic infringement notice number xxxxxx which I have just received.

I wish to dispute the alleged infringement. Enclosed is my cheque for $7.50 for a copy of the image which was taken of my alleged offence.

In addition I wish to request for the following information.

1. A full list setting out dates, times and alleged speeds of each and every car served with an infringement notice at Eastlink Keysborough Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge and the total number of drivers served with infringement notices at this location since the the opening of Eastlink.
2. A full list setting out dates, times and alleged speeds of each and every car served with an infringement notice at each and every other Eastlink speed camera location since the opening of Eastlink.

I require the information for my court case as I intend to dispute the offence and need this information to mount my Defence.

Yours faithfully


OK folks $10 each. Whose in? Let's see if the suspicion many people have about the faulty camera is true or not. You don't need a sociologist to tell you that humans are predestined to speed at only one location. If the numbers are evenly spread out there is not much likelihood of a faulty camera. But if there is a bunching.......

$7.50, a stamp and an envelope. That's all. The work has been done for you.

If the stats show a problem then let's see what $10 gets you.

Anyone willing to put in $10 to challenge please reply with name and contact details to : pingedateastlink@gmail.com

Ok Peter im in i will contact you once i send this comment

Just received 3 fines within 3 days of each other Keysborough

14th Jan 105 alleged 108

17th Jan 113 alleged 116 Northbound

17th Jan 111 alleged 114 Southbound

The 17th Jan I ahd my wife, mother in law and kids in the vehicle, no way was I travelling at this speed, Its the western ring road all over again

Am applying for internal review, photos and deatils of calibration and service history, including details of equipment used to calibrate, its calibration status eyc. Qualifications and experience of service personel etc

This is a complete scam

how exactly does the toll way work out how much you are charged?

by going through a toll gate..... each gate represents a time and cost.

The entry point is shown on your east link / city link account....

surely we are able to collect records of our vehicles travelling over the course of the tollway?

This would be an infallible indication of time and distance travelled to equal your average speed......

simple maths.

I am in on the photo and letter... Will be posting one off immediately. Whats $7.50 in the grand scheme of things?

I am amazed that so many people are complaining.Just received a 108km-hr infringement notice.I don't believe it and have heard about other people doubting it too.
I will also go all the way to court.They hate this.Last time I did this I wasted the time of a police officer and a speed camera operator.The magistrate took away a demerit point but waived the fine.They were begging me to plead guilty and ,in return,they said what a good driver I was.
It got results!

I also have received fines for using Eastlink in November/December at alleged speeds of 116 and 120 kmh ! I travel extensively on the freeway networks around Melbourne at 90 kmh and have only been pinged at the Keysborough Dandenong overpass camera. The speedo checks on my van indicate the speedomer is correct to within 3 kmh at 90 to 100 kmh. I too will be fighting the injustice.

i also have received fines for using Eastlink they should refund

I went to Dandenong Magistrates Court on Wednesday and they advised that my court date had been adjourned until the 10th of June 2010. I am ready to join whoever has initiated a class action and will be more than dedicated to fighting this abuse. I was fined 3 times in two weeks (Wellington Road Bridge) in June of 2009. Please email me with any particulars of a class action on james.kerr@redroo.com

I too received a fine for the Wellington Road Overpass on Eastlink allegedly doing 108km. I wrote to Civic Compliance Vic.; Point 4 on the fine. I pointed out that I knew about the reputation of the bridge and drove the whole way on eastlink at 95 km per hour. Also pointed out my good driving record. I HAD A WIN!!! Got a letter back that the offence was committed (as they have to say) but because of my good driving record they were withdrawing the fine and demerit points would be cancelled. I was given an official warning. SO WRITE IN - WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOSE?

PS. I will not be using eastlink under the wellington road overpass again. I didnt know about the Dandenong bypass problems until I read this site, so thank you. I will not be using that either now. What a waste of our taxes, we cannot use the roads that have been built.

Hey, I also received a 108 speed camera fine on eastlink, I cannot recall the actual event for I travel this freeway appox 4 times every day, I just assumed maybe it was a moment of concentration lapse and just paid the fine and copped the points. But now after reading this maybe I was also a victim of this scam, I wonder how many thousand people have just paid it and assumed they were also in the wrong. but what do you do?, we are the people that make up the world and of course we get no say other than every four years we get to vote between two people that primarily stand for the same thing ( to rip us off!!!) .(oh and they fine us if we don’t vote) Thanks Government..
Hmmmm maybe I will set up my own speed camera operation, "In the interest of safety of course” Ironically, I would also be fined for that!!!

I am in the processes of going to court for fine sept 09. It took 3-4 months to get the tolling times in Hrs Mins and secs from Eastlink/Citylink and I think I have a case. Will be very interested in what the cops say about the mathematics vs their suppossedly infallible cameras. I am hiring a per metre measing device next week and walking the distance to get an even more accurate distance between gantries. It's metres and seconds that count when wanting to fight them and I have the secs exactly, the exact distance soon. I love beating the cops, have done it before and there isn't a better feeling.

Add me to that list too. I was clocked doing precisely 108km/h on the 24 of January 2010 location the Dandenong Bypass Bridge. And get this, i was clocked again doing precisely the same speed 108km/h the next day as well (25 January) by the exact same camera at the exact same location. What a load of crap. I never in my 20 years of driving had a speeding fine before. Whats more, i have a GPS unit set to warn me whenever i go over 95km/h. I was traveling at less then 95km/h on both occasions. Luckily these was the only two times i used this darn motorway or i would have wracked much more fines passing under this faulty camera again. No more eastlink for me ... it is a government money raising scam ! masquerading as a motorway.

I received a fine for speeding at the Wellington Road bridge a few months ago; alleged speed = 108km. I paid the fine as I must admit that I am guilty of sometimes going slightly over the limit. After receiving that first fine, I have been incredibly wary of that particular section of Eastlink. Today I received another fine, exactly the same spot for exactly the same alleged speed, 108km. This is ridiculous as I consciously make an effort to slow down there. This is an absolute joke...but no-one is laughing.

Unfortunately I have to pay my fine because if I tried to fight it my one and only point I have left will be taken and leave me with no license....

I know I wasn't speeding and as I posted earlier it's simple maths that can not physically put me at the time and place of the "alleged" offence. Utter BULLS*$!

Ron Gallagher - I would be extremely pleased and elated to hear the outcome of your imminent victory!

Screw the government over that screws us - STOP USING THE TOLL WAY their financial loss will be a sweet payback!

Received fine for detected speed of 108km p/hr at Wellington Rd Bridge, alleged speed 105km p/hr. I know this cannot be correct, because I know the camera is there & I always ensure I'm under the speed. I nominated the driver under the company name & still got a fine, for $701 for failing to nominate driver under company name. How can I dispute this? I am not paying. I know I was not speeding & I most definately sent the nomination form in not once, but twice, because they sent a note saying I'd completed the initial nomination form incorrectly, so I made the noted changes & re-submitted. Are they not accountable for anything & they just waste our time & money. Please advise how & where I can dispute this.

How long does this have to continue? By the volume of regular complaints and objections it is obvious that something is rotten in Denmark. It would not be as profitable to admit liability and lose a chunk of the excellent revunue maker. A shame Victoria Police are not doing the right thing. The Police invoke outrage and anger from people who are incorrectly fined any wonder the force has lost the respect of the general populas!

Just printed off the application for internal review forms for 2 fines we have received from wellington road bridge - Detected speed 108km/h and alleged speed 105km/h. Seems like that's the same as everyone else who's getting pinged at this spot. Funny how we all drive the same speed! I'm going to contest!!

Hi

I have held off doing anything for a while to see how many people will join in so far only 3 people (Nick, Chris and Tanya) have been in touch with me about challenging this. There needs to be more than 3 people to make this work. Has anyone succeeded in getting any information like how many fines at each camera along Eastlink?

Sandi, you can either apply for an internal review or have the matter heard in court by completing the Application for Action by Court.

I was pinged twice in the same day on the way to my mums place 1st at the greens road heading toward Ringwood & on the way home at Wellington rd heading toward Frankston both doing 108km. I am fighting.

Got done for 113kmh on the Wellington Road Bridge.
Had my cruise control set to 110kmh!
Thats 3points which I cannot afford to lose!

Same deal, got clocked an alleged speed of 107 km/h at Keysborough northbound. No way thats right.

I have several vehicles in my fleet, All drivers have been advised to avoid Eastlink due to us believing the speed cameras are faulty. We have GPS and Cruise Control on our vehicles. Both are set for 98KPH on Eastlink yet we continue to get fines from the Keysborough bypass camera.
The Wellington Rd Camera is not fining us, the vehicles are doing exactly the same speeds at both cameras.
Unfortunately a forum such as this does not reach enough people without media attention.
I think all need to take some sort of action (legal or other) against theft by our government utilising faulty revenue sources.

Got 2 fines from the same camera (day after day) fro "Keysborough, Northbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge" - Detected speed 108km/h and alleged speed 105km/h. I have a GPS unit set to warn me whenever i go above 96Kmh. What a load of bull. No way i was going over 100kmh let alone 105-108k.

These cameras are faulty...full stop. I wrote to the penalty review department and was knocked back ("we are satisfied that the offence was committed"). What a joke, two speeding fines day after day for exactly the same detected speed. Chances of that happening are about as high as winning the lottery. Lucky me.

These thieves must be stopped immidiatly...bloody state sponsored highway rip off! unbelievable what is going on here.

Forget it, no more eastlink for us and i am going to contest this in court.

I suggest we write to channel 7's today tonight show. We must get this story to the headlines. This state sponserd highway robbery can not continue.

Link
http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/suggest-story

Or google "Today tonight" and then click the "suggest a story" link....ppl tell your story!!!!

And don't forget channel nine's "Current affairs"

Link:
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/feedback/default.aspx?formid=228

Re eastlink cameras Wellington Bridge
108km/h,108km/h,116km/h
Dandenong bypass Bridge
105km/h,107km/h,113km/h all in one month Feb 2010
Not bad for a non speedster, will contest this vigorously, happy to join any class action.

I HAVE ALSO BEN CLOCKED 4X TIMES BY THE SAME CAMERA UNDER THE WELLINGTON BRIDGE, AT 106KPH AND 113KPA, ALSO LIKE MANY OTHERS I HAVE CRUSIE CONTROL AND MY GPS WITH THE LATEST SOFTWARE ON, IS ALL WRONG ACCORDING TO EASTLINK... I KNOW I DO SPPED AS I HAVE USED THE EASTLINK AND HAVE BEEN IN THREE DIFFERENT CARS AND MY WORK CAR IS THE ONLY ONE TO GET THE TICKETS, I USED THE SAME GPS IN ALL THREE CARS, EASTLINK HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THIS AND THEY SAY MY GPS IS FAULTY...WHAT A LOAD OF B*******T IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THIS ???

Anyone going to court should read and print this story published on the the Herald-Sun Oct, 7 2009 you'll simply be amazed by what is going on:

"Police dodge Wellington Rd, Eastlink speed camera trap"

<a href=http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/police-dodge-wellington-rd-eastlink-speed-camera-trap/story-e6frf7kx-1225783660643>Story link</a>

Anyone going to court should read and print this story published on the the Herald-Sun Oct, 7 2009 you'll simply be amazed by what is going on:

"Police dodge Wellington Rd, Eastlink speed camera trap"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/police-dodge-wellington-rd-eastlink-speed-camera-trap/story-e6frf7kx-1225783660643

14th Feb' 2010 7.05pm -Eastlink,Keysborough,Southbound,Dandenong Bypass Bridge."Detected" Speed - 108 km/hr. Alleged-105.

28th Feb'2010 6.25pm -
Eastlink,Keysborough,Southbound,Dandenong Bypass Bridge."Detected" Speed - 111 km/hr.Alleged-108.

I drive at 100 km/hr on the Tollway & am extremely conscious of my speed. I was certainly in no rush on either occassion, simply returning home after visiting relatives.
These are the first speeding tickets in some 15 years.

After reading all of the other comments here, I suspect that the speed detection setting on the Bridge camera is overstating speeds by a minimum of 8 ks/hr.

I agree that this camera is an absolute case of entrapment, and road safety is not the prime reason for its existance.

How do falsly accused motorists combat this injustice ?

I have followed Al's suggestion & emailed 7's Today Tonight. Hope more people do the same,& perhaps something will come of this.

Yes,I would support a Class Action.
Contact me -:
mark2adw@yahoo.com.au

I'll tell you how falsely accused motorists should combat this injustice which the law likes to call legal, and states that you don't have a choice but to waste your time contesting it, or pay it.Simply physically demolish everyone of them with a sledge hammer. Including the monitoring cameras. Everything is about cameras these days. That's how you combat it. Why should I waste my time contesting something I was wrong done by, and I then have to consume my own time contesting it.If everybody did this, it would simply become too expensive for the damned government to keep replacing them. Sorry, but I speak what I feel. I don't like being legally ripped off, and the government can get stuffed. I work hard for my money.I'm not going to hand it to some bloody PM for his 150.000 dollar a year retirement pension, or some mongrel who needs his next payment for his luxury car. I would rather lose my licenses, go on the dole because I've lost my job and then suck the dole for the next how many months. Let them pay me for a change, and it will be alot more than 230.00 bucks. Why should I give it to them that easily because they say I have to, and then I have to go to the trouble to contest it.The problem in this country is people are soft, and what the law says stays, regardless of what the people say. The people really need to act when governments don't listen. Exactly like they do in Europe. After all, Australia is constantly following European type laws these days anyway. Follow European, act European I say. Melbournians have it bullshit hard. How they still have their licenses is beyond me.

I would like to say that willfully damaging public property should not be condoned - HOWEVER -

In this particular instance I think it would be necessary...

DID ANY OF YOU VOTE TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS PUT IN PLACE?????

didn't think so...

DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE REMOVED IF WE VOTED THEM OUT????

didn't think so....

I THINK PHYSICAL ACTION IS APPROPRIATE TO GET THIS MESSAGE ACROSS BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY ARE STILL NOT GETTING OUR MESSAGE!

Balaclavas and baseball bats....

There you go !! Someone who agrees with me. I do not condone violence or willfully damaging public property either, but when the going gets tough the tough get going. There are times for drastic action when governments don't listen, and for Melbournians, this is one of them. Either boycott this unnecessary evil Tollway and financially ruin the bastards to the point of no return, or smash their damned cameras. It's either the people of Melbourne show these bastards who's boss, or the people of Melbourne are further financially ruined. Wake up Melbournians !! The law if for the safe right of all people. Not for illegally robbing the people.

Hi,
In regards to the speed cameras on the Eastlink. I think that a good question to ask is 'If the camera is mounted on the underside of a bridge, which takes a lot of traffic, is there any movement resulting from vehicles which would affect the cameras performance?'

Booked on the 28th of Feb at the Wellington Rd Bridge whilst on cruise control - if the cruise control is faulty why didnt any of the other cameras pick me up. First fine in over 10 years!
$50 towards class action, sending email

Tas, I URGE YOU TO FIGHT THIS !

Within the past 4 weeks i have had 5! yes 5 speeding fines at the dandynong bypass! 4 were going northbound and the other was going southbound. All at pretty much the same speed. Its not fair im definitely going to fight this! It is ridiculous!

I think Phil's got a good point, it's most likely vibration from the bridge which is causing inaccurate readings even though the cameras may appear to be calibrated.

It's time to vote Brumby out anyway, Labor has gone crazy with revenue-raising cameras.

I have been pinged twice in the Mullum Mullum Tunnel in the last 4 months - approx 600 metres from the exit both times around 4 - 4.30pm detected speed was 88, alleged speed 86.

Ok the first time I may have been 4 or 5 km/h over because the traffic in the left lane was travelling at 60km/h & nose to tail so I had to speed up a bit to get into a space without cutting off the driver in the left lane so I could take the Ringwood Bypass turn-off, but there is NO WAY I was doing 88.

This is bullsh*t, specially after the first time I got stung, & I know where the damn camera is... there is NO WAY I was speeding the second time.

Last year driving my wife's car south on Eastlink around 7pm on a Saturday evening I had been stopped by a cop & warned that I was travelling at 110kmh when I explained that I had the cruise control set at 100 he told me to get the speedo checked & let me go with a warning. I checked the speedo the next day with my GPS & yes from about 70km/h + it was out by 10kmh probably due to the oversize 17" rims on the car... so fair call... but the rest of the trip I set the cruise control to 90km/h (actual speed 100)& got done at the Wellington Rd overpass for doing 110!!!!

I will gladly chip in a tenner to fight these scumbag revenue raisers... Road safety cameras my ar$e!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I detest speed cameras AND the Labour Govt. Lets get rid of both!

Where are all the cops???? Used to be you couldn't go out on the roads without seeing at least one cop car a day... now I doubt I'd see one a week!!

I've been pinged 4 times in 4 weeks! Prior to that I've had 1 fine in 6 years - geelong freeway - yeah I was over so I cop it - no probs! I even got a 10% discount on my last licence renew for been such a good boy! But these 4 are ridiculous. One in the tunnel and 3 in the 100 zones. I drive an '04 landcruiser, it's speedo and cruise control is spot on and I check it regularly with my gps - spot on. I use cruise control all the time - set to 98ks - it's easier driving and I can rest happy in the knowledge that I'm NOT speeding - yer right. So now I start the loop with 'civic compliance' - and plead my innocence.... and guess what - all 4 fines are alleged at 8 ks over - what are the odds of that
? But I wasn't speeding! Now I have to seriosuly rethink using eastlink. The fines are bad enough but at this rate in 8 weeks I'll be walking!

Been booked 5 times in 6 months, 1 point,3 points, 1 point.I didn't speed, but paid fines and copt the points as it was all too hard.Bought car with cruise, set to 95kmph got booked two more times at alledged 116 kmph both times, rather coincidental (3 points each) with wife in car as witness each time. Internal review requested for first of them, Wellington Rd, with response today to that Police were satisfied that I was speeding and pay the fine or take matter to court.Funny though, photo I requested had two cars in it, waiting for photo of second alledged offence at Dandenong Bypass, I'll bet there are two cars in it as well .
What the hell can I do ? I'm in desparate trouble.
Where do I go for class action ?????

Yeah well good luck to all. These camera's are total rubbish !!! My son who is on his P's and only got his license in September '09 and has never got a fine or lost points before, but still being a P driver will never have a chance fighting these Eastlink fines. He started work on the 22/03/10 has already been done 3 times - all at the Dandenong Bypass 2 @ 110km/h and 1 @ 109km/h then take off 3km/h for an 'alleged' speed ! Out of that time I drove him to work for 1 week so now I'm just waiting to see if I cop a speeding fine as well - which would definately be wrong as I use my cruise control and sit on 98 to 100max. Meantime I've told my son not to use eastlink, his trip to work may take longer but 2 more points and he wont have a license and that means no work either. After reading all the above think I'll still get a copy of the photo's and see how many cars are in the photo ??? Wondering also if all of these fines for everyone are coming from a particular camera in a particular lane at the Dandenong Bypass !!!??? RIP OFF

These fixed speed camera's - & others- ARE corrupt.
Some visitors to this site may recall a very brief Media report in Feb' 2010 concerning "Stolen Speed Camera Software".

The speed measuring devices (SMD's)in these camera's are very accurate. It is the computer software that is corrupt. There is a sub-program that can be run randomly,or set to specific times & days. When operating,the actual speeds detected between 101 kph & 106 kph have 7 kph added to the real speed to give the 'Detected' Speed. The system deducts 3 kph to give the 'Alleged' Speed.
IE-: Your actual speed of 101kph = 108kph (Detected Speed)less 3kph = 105kph (Alleged Speed).
Keep in mind that your speedometer may be slightly inaccurate by 2-3 kph (sometimes more), so what you believe is 100kph may really be 103kph.
Your settings on Cruise Control & GPS may also be + or - 3 kph different to your actual speed.
The 7 kph 'bonus' speed can be adjusted at any time, so the only way to avoid a fine is to know where the camera's are, & to reduce your speed by 10 kph.
Another example of the State Government "Working For You".

I have just received an infringement notice 108kmh on the Eastlink Dandenong Bypass Bridge heading southbound (detected speed 108kmh, alleged speed 105kmh) I am aware of the camera and had the cruise control set at 100kmh, so there was no way I was speeding. I will write to them about this.
I have been living in Australia for 18 months now and am committed obeying the law. Road safety cameras here are the same as the UK, a way of making extra revenue for the government. If road safety is what it is all about then the police should concentrate on the amount of tailgating on the freeways especially by trucks, I am amazed more people are not killed because these trucks do not have a hope in hell of stopping in an emergency!

My husband has received 5 fines for the Wellington Road bridge. all at the same detected and alleged speed. We have asked for all to be heard in Court. 1 has been withdrawn, 1 has been lost and am still waiting on summons on the last one. Have been to court now 3 times - all adjournements. Today again was told it has been adjourned. Apparently there is 1 Judge at Dandenong who is hearing these matters and one matter is going to a Contest Mention (full hearing) on 21 July 2010. All cases have been adjourned until after the outcome of this one. If this person succeeds it is likely that the rest will be withdrawn also. If not, it is going to be very hard to win as the Judge said with the evidence from the camera operators before her we must be able to prove reasonable doubt so we have to have the evidence to prove the cameras are faulty.

I have received three fine notices, all 108 kph,alleged 105 kph, Southbound at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge, within 2 weeks.
My etag account shows that I travelled each total distance (30.2 ks) in 19 minutes.So -: 30.2 ks divided by 19 min's, multiplied x 60 = 95kph average speed.
I use the tollway twice a week.First 'speeding' fines in 25 years of driving.
I have written to the Officer in Charge, as per instructions, but my request to review the fines was denied, stating - "I am satisfied that the offence was committed..issue of notice was justified".
I have now requested copies of images and refused to pay the fines, requesting that the matters be dealt with by the Court.
After reading all of the comments here, YES, something is definately wrong with this system,& it would appear to be deliberately falsifying speeds for Revenue purposes - certainly not for Road Safety.
Why is the camera there anyway, this is not a 'Black Spot'??
REMOVE camera's from these locations & put them where they might do some good - Eg outside schools !

when will all drivers wake up and understand that all 108-110 are actually 98-101,these cameras were
never intended to ever slow you down,they are setup
for only making money,people are very coutious on
freeways and no one is dum not to watch their speed
knowing all these hefty fines,beside that, the cost
of the expensive toll,in which they charge.when
will everyone stand up to their rights,don't we
have a say.silence will never solve this unfair
growing penalty revenue we all are facing,don't
we see whats happening,next we will be fined for
sitting at home.

I have also just copped a fine for the Dandenong Bypass bridge, southbound for alleged 108, fined 105. Just got one at the same place about a month ago. I know the camera is there and don't speed so how the hell could I have possibly sped by the exact same amount twice? It's crap and total revenue raising. I will be writing to them for sure. This kind of bullshit makes it damn near impossible to retain 12 points over 3 years!! Give us a break.

I have also received a fine, from the 'alleged' offence date of 6th Feb 2010, they say they will nicely take off 3 k's as the camera may be faulty by that amount only but to just pay the fine. I definately know I wasn't speeding. What are we going to do about it>? I'm not paying this fine and am up for a legal suit. I will look into it and see how we go... Goodluck

I have just applied to have this matter heard in court. I hope you all follow suit or will see if we can do The Castle type of legal action and take class action for us all at the smae time...

Date of offence: 23rd March 2010 @ 4.09pm
Eastlink,Keysborough,Northbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge....
Exceed Speed limit in a vehicle other than a heavy vehicle by less than 10km/h
Demerit Points: 1, Penalty: $146.00
Alleged Speed: 107km/hr ... Permitted Speed 100km/h ... Detected Speed 110km/h

I am aware of the "bogus speed traps" along the Eastlink and although do drive at 100 km/hr+ on the tollway, but always approach before underbridge areas at a lower speed as I am extremely conscious of my speed and always comes to mind I might cop an unnecessary fine!!! I was certainly in no rush that day simply returning home after a day's leisurely drive on the Peninsula. I was careful as I did not want to incur another fine as I have had several parking infringements over this period of time! For some unknown reason, I was a "HOT" target those past couple of months!!!

After reading all of the other comments in here, I suspect that there is the possibility of the speed detection setting on the Bridge camera overstating speeds by a minimum of 8 ks/hr.

I also agree that this camera is an absolute case of entrapment, and road safety is not the prime reason for its existance.

Although I am not happy about it, I am going to pay it and just wanted to voice the unjustice of it all in here.

It seems everyone is getting booked on cruise control.
Before going to court, do some tests, prove beyond reasonable doubt that your car was speeding.

Also, in between the cameras, set your cruise to 95 or 100kph, assess if you are moving faster than the traffic around you. It's probably one of the best educated "guesses" of your speed relation to what your speedo reads.

Mine reads 107-108 kph for an actual speed of 100kph.
I also changed my tyres and wheels, it made an approx 10mm difference (smaller) in rolling distance than what I had. On the original tyres and wheels, 104-105 kph was equal to an actual 100kph.

Remember, tyre sizes will make a difference to your speed. Larger tyres (aspect ratio) than the placarded ones by your car's manufacturer will always make you do a few more kph than what you thought.

Do a speed test over a certain distance, know what speed you are really doing. That's why all your court cases haven't worked, because you can't prove beyond doubt that you weren't speeding.

I've had an eastlink tag since it opened. Yet to receive a speeding fine. And I do 100kph under the cameras. That's because I've done my homework.

If you want to win your court cases, prove it by doing your homework and some tests.

After these tests, I'd dare say that a lot of you were indeed speeding (unfortunately).

I have tested both cameras in both directions, still yet to receive a fine. It does not fine you for doing 100kph.

Received speeding fine Detected 109kmh and alleged 106kmh at Eastlink Wellington Rd Bridge Northbound. Had been travelling from Frankston to Ringwood with Cruise Control set at 100kmh. Why didn't other gantry cameras detect me for speeding. My vehicle, a brand new FORD with less than 1000ks on clock. Is my new vehicle speedo that faulty. I know of the existence of the speed camera, in particular Wellington Rd Bridge. Why would I be so stupid to speed knowing of the likely consequences. Another fighter not paying.

I wonder which camp ME is in ?
Eastlink - protecting their Camera Site Fees which is basically a commission on Infringement Notices, or the Camera Traffic Office, trying to justify this extortion racket.
ME says he/she has tried to get booked - "tested the cameras in both directions" ??
Believe it Or Not. ME = BS !

How many here would be interested in a 60 kph 'Go Slow' protest drive, City Bound, during peak hour times,each morning,along the Tollway ?

I think that this would get good media coverage and highlight this State Government Extortion Racket!

30 years driving and only 1 speeding fine and 12 months using Eastlink i now have 8 speeding fines. I think if the goverment wanted to make up lost revenue for Eastlink they certainly are on to a winner here, it appears to be a lotto windfall for them maybe i'll try pushing my car along there and see if i get a ticket, get real and stop treating all drivers like there idiots. I believe there should be commision set up to investigate the many complaints received from these Eastlink cameras i'm sick of paying road taxes,road tolls and road fines maybe i'll buy myself a horse or rotating number plates like james bond 007.

Just to add mine to the list.Fine notice 15th april. Eastlink Keysborough, southbound Dandenong bypass bridge. Detected 112km/Alleged 109 fine $146
I usually use cruise control in 18mth old Toyota Prius so speedo should be accurate I believe. I don't travel on eastlink v often at all, and will use less after this. No other fines so I'm using the following advice from an earlier comment to start with, so good website, hope you manage to succeed with class actions etc:


Official Warning
Fines issued by Victoria Police for traffic offences
Victoria Police has the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice issued for a traffic offence and issue an official warning in its place.
Generally, an official warning will not be given for red-light, mobile phone, seatbelt or other serious road safety offences, unless the existence of an emergency situation can be proved.
However, you can still apply to Victoria Police for an internal review of its decision. The contact details will be on the infringement notice.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.
If you have been issued with a speeding fine for driving less than 10kph over the speed limit, you can apply for an official warning if you:

• Hold a current driver licence (includes probationary licence holders but does not include a learner driver permit holder)
• have not been issued with a speeding, other traffic fine or official warning within the previous two years (if you have an interstate licence, you will need to provide evidence of your driving record - contact your local road traffic authority for this information)
• do not deny that you committed the offence.
Fines issued by agencies
All agencies have the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice and issue an official warning in its place.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.

My husband has just recieved 3 fines on the Dandenong bypass and Wellinton road. All stating that he was going 108 and actual speed 105. About $148 each fine with one point. Normally I would curse him because he doesnt have the best driving history however I happened to be in the car with him at the time and 100% know that the cruise control was set at 100KM each time. How the hell can you prove this?? I want to write a letter to them but I am convinced they will just throw it away. Does anyone know where we could get the car speedo tested while on cruise control to eliminate the car as evidence??

second fine at Wellington road in 12 months, was aware of camera and had cruise control set at 100kph also had a truck about 50 metres in front of me and still managed a fine of $148 for speed of alleged speed of 108kph (had check speedo prior with GPS and no it registers slow than displayed but how can I prove it! its just a grab for cash

I have just got a fine for 108kph on eastlink at the wellington road bridge, and knowing the problems there I have always checked my speed before going under the bridge never to be over the 100kph.

I will not be using eastlink tollway any more.

Has anyone had any success challenging these fines.

My partner just rang to inform me that I have just received a fine for $200+ as well as 3 demerit points for speeding under the Wellington Rd bridge. I have received 2 of the "108 km/h" ones in the past so I definitely DO NOT travel over 100 km/h anywhere near Wellington Rd. This is crap

I watch my speedo like a hawk and although I drive all over Melbourne for over 3 hours every day for work I never usually get more than one "Under 10 Km" fine a year on average untill I started using Eastlink. I have now had 3 fines at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge. I now have to brake to 90 km an hour approaching this bridge to prevent getting a bullshit fine!! Thats great for road safety!

In answer to Gregs comment i don't know any one who has challanged a fine with success wish i had. I always thought they had to clock you over a certain distance before they could fine you but it don't seem that way on eastlink. Seems to me like they take pictures of all traffic and they go in the hat at night to see who gets the fine, and how the hell can we argue over a still shot bit unfair i think.Appears to me they think no one is going to argue about 108km/h hoping that we will say to them selves i'm sure i wasn't speeding, 108 is there lucky number for some reason strange how all the cars that get booked are doing that speed EXCATLY.And i think drivers should have a choice of paying the fine or losing a demerit point , not both thats being punished twice for the same offence, if it was committed.

I paid for 2 trip passes on May 19th 2010 and then in June I received an invoice to pay for 3rd trip that i had on May 19th, I have been contacting with Eastlink to sort it out.

Speed cameras on the eastlink are are state sponsored rip off schme.

check out these videos, a must see. you are definitely not alone having to cope a bullshit fine. I'm taking mine to court and will go all the way to the high court if need be. This crap must stop!

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/surge-in-eastlink-complaints/xbny0he

Speed cameras on the eastlink are are state sponsored rip off scum.

<a href=http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/surge-in-eastlink-complaints/xbny0he>Video link</a>

check out these videos, a must see. you are definitely not alone having to cope a bullshit fine. I'm taking mine to court and will go all the way to the high court if need be. This crap must stop!

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/surge-in-eastlink-complaints/xbny0he

Date of offence 29th march 2010, Detected Speed 111km Alleged speed 108km Eastlink, Rowville, southbound, WELLINGTON road bridge.

I have always been aware of this speed camera so whenever i go on eastlink i set my cruise control too exactly 100km with my digital speedo.

You can add me to this list.
Just got two speeding fines on Wellington Road brige. Dated 21st May & 24th May. Both at the same speed 109km estimated booked at 105km.
I don't go over 100km on Eastlink,haven't for the past 6 months since I started using it.
This is just disgusting. Reading all these comments has made me feel better as I am not alone but also worse because they are just getting away with it. And for what 150 people have still died on our roads this year. 11% up on last year? Great work Brumby....

Do u think that we could put pillow cases over all cameras in the state? Its not vandalism if u didnt break anything..

I like the idea of a slow drive at 60kmph in peak hour...!

to all you guys Set your cruise control film the whole lot then wait..if the fine comes then you have your proof...fight fire with fire and the flame will soon be extinguished

I very rarely use east link these days - Im sick of getting booked - I have even been booked heading to Eastlink on Alexandra parade - i was 6 klm over -
There is nothing dangerous about doing 106 KLM in a 100KLM freeway as resposible people do not exceed speed limits intentionally. It is much safer watching the road than the speedo - the whole exercise is about revenue raising - cameras and resources should be used in dangerous roads and dangerous intersections

Thank goodness for this site - I have been in absolute agony over two fines, 28th April and 27th May, Keysborough southbond Dandy bypass. After all the trips on eastlink since its completion (and not even knowing that there were cameras for the 1st year at least) -why now? and I drive a taxi and love eastlink, never see anyone speeding, and there is absolutely no need to overtake, so why would we all be doing these ridiculous speeds at this one point? I am contesting for sure - I despise speed and have had my licence for 40 years, never had a highway/freeway fine.

I am glad that I found this site. Just got a notice for a speeding fine on Eastlink. An alledged speed of 108 at the Wellington bridge overpass. I know that I was not speeding as I had my cruise control set and know that my speedo is correct (actually reads 1K fast) have checked it against my SatNav and had it checked when car was serviced on the Dyno. Its my first speeding fine for over 5 years; but what chance do you have of trying to beat it in court. I can not afford to take a day off work or pay for a lawer, which would probably be more than the fine anyway. It really sucks.

My car got pinned on 17/06/10 for allegedly doing 140KMH under Eastlink Northbound Wellington road bridge. Cruise control on set to 100KPH. 6 months suspension of licence. Get on Police/Wellington Road go to Ringwood at Canterbury/Maroondah Hwy. Checked my prepaid breeze acc from Feb to July10 this trip has takem 7mins quickest all others have been 8mins.The trip that I was allegedly doing 140kph took me 8minutes. surely at this speed I should have got there under 5minutes. I'm going to Eastlink to get actual prints outs of History and querying. The time I've taken 7mins was not fined which was done twice.

My mothers car has been booked twice at the Wellignton road northbound bridge for 108KM. Ever since she got booked the first time she had been extra careful and even slowed down dramatically neer the Camera, this is an outrage, shes been booked twice in an amount of weeks at the same speed.

i have no reason to be here as i am far away and this is of no relevance to me (came across it by accident) BUT i cant believe how anal they are about such little speed over the limit. here we consider the police to be asses if they pull you over for anything under 20k over the limit...all these fines for 8k over is ludicrus..perhaps i dont have it so bad here after all !

Yep, I too was warned about the high number of cameras on this road, I drove very carefully with Cruise Control set on around 99km/h and now you can add me to this impressively long list of "clientele" of the Victorian Safety Camera Enforcement Agency. I just recieved my notification that apparently I was "detected" at 114km/h for an "alleged" speed of 111km/h at the Dandenong By-Pass Bridge. How convenient that this "alleged" speed puts me in the higher fine category of $234.00 (inc GST)

So screw you Eastlink, screw you Brumby and screw you Vic Police...

Victoria - The Place to Be (If you wanna be fucked over!!!!!!!!!!)

It's not just Eastlink where these scams occur, and not just Speed Camera. I just received a toll invoice from Citylink which claimed I entered at Punt Road at 18:52 and exited from Toorak Road at 18:53. According to Google Maps this is a distance of 6 kms in one minute or over 360 kmh.
Check out the US organisation CameraFraud and check to see the what they've uncovered about these sorts of cameras,
Which btw are from an Australian company now under a takeover bid from the Macquarie Bank.

I have just received a fine on Easlink’s Wellington Rd Bridge for being detected speed of 109km/h dropped to alleged speed of 106km/h on July6 2010. I had set my cars cruise control on 99km/h so I know I couldn’t have been going 109km/h. Am also looking for others may have been recently fined, or can advise regarding a current class action.

Whatever you do. DO NOT PAY THE FINES. Take the matter to court and have it heard.

Stop using eastlink people...the entire road is bobby traped with cameras...a major rip off scum going on. You save nothing by using the easlink and set to lose lots of $$$$ and your license if you have to use it daily. Amazing realty!

just got a fine at north bound,wellington rd bridge
alleged speed 105 detected speed 108 ,geez had my cruise control set at 100kmh ,but to cut the story short wife just got one exactly same speeds same location,different vehicle.thats not right wife has not had a traffic infringement in 6 years .wer going to court ..goodbye brumby at next election.